Who Is Esau-Edom? The Origin of Today's Jews

The best historical evidence shows that the Jews are not descended directly from the Israelites of the Bible, but derive much of their ancestry from the Khazars and other people of Turkish-Asiatic blood. The Khazars are also of Edomite stock and both stocks make up the present day Jews. The Khazars were a nomadic people who had no traces of Hebraic culture. They had been following a pagan and sex-oriented religion until they had officially embraced Judaism in 740 A.D., while rejecting Christianity and Mohammedism.

In this series, we will look at different chapters of Charles A. Weiseman’s book Who Is Esau-Edom? which posits the idea that today’s Jews fit all the characteristics of Esau-Edom -- the eternal antagonists of the true Israelite people in the Bible.

It should be noted that Weiseman does not ascribe to the “two seedline” doctrine that the Jews and their minions are the literal bloodline descendants of Satan as the result of a sexual union with Eve in the Garden of Eden, and/or from sexual congress between the “sons of God” and the “daughters of Man” in Genesis 6.

You can read Weiseman’s refutation of this theory in his book, What About The Seedline Doctrine: A Biblical Examination and Explanation of the Cain-Satanic Seedline Doctrine.

We also wrote essays questioning this doctrine: Edom In the Old and New Testaments, Edom In the Prophecy of Malachai, and Was Esau A Fornicator? What we would concede, however, is that within the bloodline of Esau-Edom, though not specified in scripture, there most certainly was some race mixing over time, as was true of all the Genesis 10 nations. We can merely speculate, based on extra-biblical evidence, what became of that mixed remnant of Esau -- as surely Weiseman does here.

In fact, Weiseman does argue that today’s Jews are the literal descendants of Esau-Edom, as opposed to Judah through Jacob-Israel, whom they falsely claim as their tribal patriarch.

Whether nor not the Jews are the literal descendants of this Edomite tribe is debatable. However what is clear, as Weiseman makes the case, is that today’s Jews fit all the spiritual and supernatural characteristics of Esau-Edom as the eternal antagonists of the Israelite people.

Of course, today’s Jews, especially rabbinical Jews, view the White Christian race as their enemies and often refer to us as “Edom” or “Amalek.” They’ve used these epithets against the Romans and the Germans in World War II, and now against all of White Christendom, pejoratively also referred to as “the goyim” -- dumb cattle deserving to be enslaved and slaughtered.

In the Bible, the “goyim” or “nations,” often mistranslated as “gentiles,” has no such negative connotation per se. In fact, there are instances where “the nations” also refer to the Israelite tribes themselves.

However, today’s Jews, by their own admission, are “strictly speaking” not real Hebrews or Israelites. And if they are not Israelites, then Esau-Edom cannot be their sworn enemies.

As we have demonstrated, we can find the true remnant of the Israelite people among Christendom -- European White Christians of all western nations who are descendants of the ten “lost” northern tribes of Israel, and are the heirs of the promises to Abraham who migrated up in to Europe after the Assyrian captivity and became known as the Scythians, Celts, Goths, Welsh-Cymry, and kindred peoples.

And it’s not difficult to identify the people who, for the last 2,000 years, have dwelled in Christian Europe and been our constant subverters and destroyers -- pricks in our eyes and thorns in our sides and deniers of our faith and the promised Messiah.

As the Jew Bernard Lazare admitted:

We would surely expect that Esau-Edom would, therefore, deny the promised Messiah of Israel, Jesus Christ.

With this context in mind, we will now look at Charles Weiseman’s chapter on the conflict between Talmudic Jews and Biblical Christian-Israel, and how this conflict reflects the prophesied conflict between Esau-Edom and Jacob-Israel.

God has written a Script for His Israelite people which identifies the two main characters who would be involved in an age-long struggle or conflict -- that being Esau and Jacob. This is a constant theme throughout the Script, so let’s look at the Script and see what it has to say about them.

Toward the beginning of God’s Script (the Bible), we read of the character Esau making his first appearance on stage, as he is being born to Rebekah and Isaac along with his twin brother Jacob. The scene opens with Isaac’s request to God on behalf of his wife:

Here we find that this conflicting and antagonistic relationship between these two characters -- Jacob and Esau -- was ordained by God even before their birth. Rebekah was barren, and it was God who had allowed her to conceive, forming Esau and Jacob in the womb along with their unique and differing characteristics. God purposely made these two characters different and contrary to one another.

The contrasting differences between Esau and Jacob were represented by their struggle or conflict in their mother’s womb. This was to set the stage for generations of conflict and antagonism between Esau and Jacob who were regarded by God as two different nations or racial groups (some translations say, “two rival races”).

They thus were to be separate peoples, each with their own separate character, roles and destinies: “two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels.“ Their struggle also represents the struggle between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of the world.

Here then we find the primary origin and source of world conflicts, international strife, conspiracies, revolutions, and political upheavals. This conflict and struggle was a characteristic that was to exist between the descendants of Esau and Jacob. That is to say, a permanent and continuing conflict between “two nations” or races of people. This then brings the matter within the scope of International Law, and our conflicts today lie within this international sphere. So strong is this theme that it becomes a principle itself.

Throughout the Bible the nations of Edom and Israel were in conflict with one another. The struggle between Esau and Jacob in the womb was thus a sign of what was to come in the world on an international level. It was to set the stage for a continued conflict between the ideologies, laws, philosophies, governments, religion, and status of the descendants of these two characters.

The evidences of the God-ordained conflict and struggle between Esau and Jacob can be followed down through history to the present times. World conflicts, wars, persecutions, and social struggles are a result of two different systems generated by the two different peoples (nations) descended from Esau and Jacob.

While there are differences among any two races or nations, among no other two has such an antagonistic and conflicting relationship existed as between the Jews and the white Christian people. Throughout history these two peoples have been at odds with one another, their manner of law, government, religion, and ideologies are diametrically opposite to one another. It is an ancient conflict between the ancient adversaries of Esau (Jews) and Jacob (white Christians).

The connection between the white race and Christianity -- and the Jews with Judaism -- is universally recognized. Judaism, or the religion of the Jews as expressed in their Talmud, is contrary to the precepts of the Christian Bible. What the Bible approves of the Talmud disapproves of, and what the Bible prohibits, the Talmud allows in some form. The following table bears witness to this.

Hundreds of such contrasting illustrations could easily be presented to further prove that Judaism and the Jewish Talmud are opposite and antagonistic to the Bible and Christianity, just as Esau and Jacob were. This exposes the false notion that Christianity was derived from Judaism, and nullifies the term “Judeo-Christian.”

The Talmud teaches the opposite laws and principles from that of the Bible. Even where a sound and well-recognized moral law of God is concerned, the Talmud in every instance tries to find some exception to it. The exception, deviation or modification is then justified by the words and teaching of some ancient rabbi or the “Sages” as they are called in the Talmud. The Talmud is not a book of Godly morals or virtuous ethics, but rather is replete with perversion and teachings of sexual debauchery.

[Note: In 1923, Dr. Alfred Luzsenzsky, who had translated the Talmud into Hungarian (in 1910), was charged, by order of the public ministry of Hungary with “pornography” and with “corruption of public morals.” The court found that, “The horrors contained in the translation of Alfred Luzsenzsky are without exception found in the Talmud. His translation is accurate.”]

Contrary to popular belief, the Jews are not followers of Old Testament law since they are not the people of the Old Testament (the Israelites). In fact, in the book Sanhedrin, section 88b, the Talmud teaches that its precepts and laws are of a “greater stringency” than in respect to those of the Bible. It also says that when a Jew claims there is no breach of Talmudic law, he may act even though “a Biblical law may be transgressed.” It is the Talmud that guides the life and spirit of the Jew:

Rabbi Bokser stated, “Judaism is not the religion of the Bible” (Ben Zion Bokser, Judaism and the Christian Predicament, 1966, p. 159).

The nature of the Jew is inclined not toward Biblical precepts but rather toward “Jewish lore and tradition (within the Talmud) which is the mainstay of Jewish existence”’ (Solomon Grayzel, A History of the Jews, Jewish Publication Society, Philadelphia, 1947, p. 362).

The Bible then is used merely for show so as to give the Jews the appearance of being godly and God’s people, while their true law and religion is derived from the teachings and traditions of the Talmud. The Talmud is the work of “numerous Jewish scholars over a period of some 700 years, roughly speaking, between 200 [BC] and 500 [AD]’” (Dr. Boaz Cohen, Everyman’s Talmud, E.P. Dutton, N.Y. 1949, p. iii).

The Talmud is actually “the product of the Palestinian and Babylonian schools” and is generally called “the Babylonian Talmud” (The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. XIl (1905) p. 1).

The Pharisees were adherents of this Babylonian thought, and it was this thought and religion which Christ was always at war against. Christ rebuked them because they “reject the commandments of God, so that you may keep your own [Babylonian] traditions” (Mark 7:9).

Judaism and Christianity are poles apart, and the opposition between these two systems is as radical today as it was in the days of Christ. But Judaism is not only derived from “Babylonian thought,” but also “from Canaanite religious practices” (The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. VI, (1942), p. 235).

Esau had married women of the Canaanite race whose religious practices were “abhorred” by God (Leviticus 20:23). Jacob, however, “learned the ways of the LORD and His commandments” (Jasher 29:11), whereas Edom rejected God’s ways and worshiped other gods (2 Chronicles 25:14).

The Jews -- like their Edomite, Canaanite, Pharisaical and Babylonian ancestors -- also reject the commandments of God. This rejection and defiance of God is what Judaism is based upon. As the Jew Bernard Lazare revealed:

Since Jews have an inclination towards this Talmudic religion which defies God, an obvious conflict will exist between them and anyone who adheres to the laws or ways of God. So repugnant was the Talmud to the white Christian people of Europe that on numerous occasions kings and popes issued edicts to have the Talmud burned.

Like Esau and Jacob, the Jews and white Christian people have been struggling and in conflict with each other from their first encounter with one another. A look through history reveals the continual disputes, arguments, and disagreements between the Jews and Christians. “One of the earliest instances is the Dialogue of Justin Martyr (d. 165) with ‘Tryphon the Jew’ ” (The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia (1977) 5th Ed., p. 562).

Such dialogues and disputations between Jews and Christians have generally centered around the same subjects such as the Virgin Birth, the nature of the messianic prophecies and their fulfillment, the nature of Jesus, and various aspects of the law. Contrasting opinions on such topics have been permanent traits of these two peoples.

Here we will continue with the second part of our series looking at Charles A. Weiseman’s book Who Is Esau-Edom?

Recently, a few of our readers brought up the questions, “Who was the first Jew?” and “What is ‘ground zero’ for the Jewish people?” -- a subject that Weiseman grapples with in his chapter, “The Origin of the Jews.”

Although Weiseman argues that the first “Jews,” or first ancestors of today’s Jews, arose out of Edom, he also concedes that Edom is just one of many bloodlines that the mongrelized Jews have mixed with throughout the past centuries as they moved from one place to another.

Keep in mind that Esau and Jacob were twins with the same genetic parents. What determines Israelite identity is the father, not the mother, so we have no way of knowing when the descendants of Esau became mixed. The early descendants of Canaan, one of Noah’s grandsons, were certainly unmixed, but over time, with practicing paganism no doubt, many of them became mixed without the religious or cultural proscriptions against such mixing.

According to Jewish tradition, Jews had changed from patrilineal to matrilineal identity sometime around 200 AD, probably because by that time most Jews had become race mixed, and the only way to ensure the continuity of “Jewish” identity was through the “Jewish” mother.

[Please read our essay on the subject of Jewish racial admixture, and the switch to matrilineal descent.]

That said, Weiseman certainly makes the case that these “Jews” took on the spiritual ethos of Esau-Edom sometime between the Babylonian captivity and after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD.

By that time, they no longer could claim any legitimate identity as Israelites, as their own books admit, and so they became “Jews” whose “religion” closely followed the anti-Christ Pharisees who, according to Josephus, adhered to many religious traditions not consistent with the writings of Moses:

Judaism as a “religion” thus began as the “oral traditions” brought back to Judea from Babylon, and then codified by the rabbis sometime around 200 AD. Christianity is not based on talmudic Judaism, which came into being after certain leaders of the Pharisees rejected Christ.

Many speculate that these Pharisees who rejected Christ were necessarily racial Edomites, and this is reinforced by the Pharisees' conversation with the Messiah in John Chapter 8. Here the Pharisees give us an astounding piece of information that is vital to a proper understanding of who they are:

The Pharisees here state that they were descended from Abraham, but had never been in bondage. However, we know that all Israel was in bondage in Egypt (Exodus 1:1-5,13-14). Therefore, the Pharisees could not be Israelites. The Messiah, but a few verses later, actually confirms what they say:

The Messiah accepts their claim of descent from Abraham, but says that they are not "Abraham’s children". What does he mean by the expression "Abraham's children"? Paul provides us with a full explanation of it in Romans 9:

Many Edomites, after forced conversion, were given citizenship in Judea under John Hyrcanus circa 150 BC and became thereafter known as “Judeans.” But, according to Josephus, the Edomites did so because they wanted to continue to live “in the land of their forefathers” which would be in the southern-most part of Judea.

And it should be noted that, according to Josephus, the Pharisees disagreed with Hyrcanus’ policy of forced conversion of Edomites, and this disagreement contributed to Hyrcanus switching from being a Pharisee to joining the Sadducees.

If true, then we must ask the question: Would not the Pharisees then reject any converted Edomites from joining their ranks?

In reality, Edom is mentioned only once in the entire New Testament in Mark 3:8,

And this verse -- at least in the context of John 10:27 -- seems to indicate that those who came to hear and follow Christ included Idumeans or Edomites, which would seem to contradict the idea that all Edomites were non-Adamics at this point in history.

In reality, we just don’t know how much mixing occurred between these southern Edomites and the Israelites in northern Judea around Jerusalem, especially with the Israelites who followed the tenets of their faith which forbade any mixing.

Josephus also acknowledges the historic antagonism between the Israelites in Judea and the Samaritans despite the fact that there were Israelites still living among the Samaritans. And in Matthew 10:5 even Christ advises his apostles to avoid them in the Great Commission.

If Israelites in Judea avoided the Samaritans, why would we not expect them to treat the Edomite converts the same way?

According to Arthur Koestler’s The Thirteenth Tribe we do know that the Khazars were a predominantly Turkic-Mongol people, but whatever Edomite admixture they had would have been minor, and only circumstantial given Weiseman’s evidence.

So while the actual historical evidence linking the Edomites to today’s Jews is scant and tenuous, as Weiseman here concedes, the character and ethos of today’s Jews most certainly coincides with Esau-Edom -- the eternal adversaries of Israel.

During Titus’ siege of Jerusalem (66-70 A.D.), “20,000 Idumeans [Edomites] appeared before Jerusalem to fight in behalf of the Zealots who were besieged in the Temple.” (The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. V, (1904), p. 41) About 97,000 inhabitants of Judea were taken captive, and an unknown number had fled either before or during the siege.

This is the last mention of the Edomites as a people in recorded history. Yet Bible prophecy indicates that Edom would be an enemy of Israel in latter times. We find that their only connection to a present day people and religion is with the Jews and Judaism. We thus need to trace back the origin of the Jews to see who they are and how they fit into the nuzzle of who is Esau-Edom.

The Jews of today fall within two main types -- the Sephardic Jew and the Ashkenazi Jew. The Sephardim are also know as “Spanish Jews” and constitute about 5% of the Jews in the world. The Ashkenazim are the “East European Jews” which were found in Poland, Russia, Germany, and Western Asia. This group of Jews make up 90% of the so-called “Jews” in the world.

Many reference and historical sources have unequivocally identified that the bulk of the Ashkenazi Jews were derived from a people known as Khazars (or Chazars in some texts). The original Jewish Encyclopedia of 1905 revealed that the main stock of the Jews came from this Asiatic people known as Chazars or Khazars:

The Khazars were a nomadic people who had no traces of Hebraic culture. They had been following a pagan and sex-oriented religion until they had officially embraced Judaism in 740 A.D., while rejecting Christianity and Mohammedism. The Jewish author and historian, Arthur Koestler, also concludes that the majority of east European Jews, and hence of world Jewry, is of Khazar and not of Semitic origin. In the beginning of his book Koestler states:

Koestler then devotes the remainder of his 255 page book to prove this premise. For instance, a record of a letter by a Khazar King shows that he traced his people to Noah’s son Japheth, not Shem, and to “Japheth’s grandson, Togarma, the ancestor of all Turkish tribes” (Koester, op cit., p. 72).

The Khazar government was destroyed by the Slavs of Russia in 1016 A.D. Around 1200 A.D., the land was invaded by the hordes of Genghis Kahn. These two events caused large numbers of Khazars to migrate to Poland and western Russia forming the cradle of Western Jewry.

As the Khazars left their homeland of Khazaria and migrated north and west, they lost their name and became known as Jews. Their Yiddish language and alphabet is not that of the Israelites (Phoenician-Greek style), but an amalgamation of Aramaic, medieval German, Slovak and Russian dialects.

The best historical evidence, therefore, shows that the Jews are not descended directly from the Israelites of the Bible but derive much of their ancestry from the Khazars and other people of Turkish-Asiatic blood.

However, the Khazars are also of Edomite stock, and both stocks make up the present day Jews, as the historian H. G. Wells states,

According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, the original stock of the Khazars came from the land of Edom:

Seir was a mountain range south of the Dead Sea and was also known as the “Iand of Edom” (Genesis 36:21).

The Seir mountains were the home of the Edomites for nearly a millennium. “The Edomites arrived in Edom or Seir at the end of the 14th and beginning of the 13th century BC,” according to the Encyclopedia of Judaica (Vol. 6, p 372). Thus, it should be no surprise that migrants from that land would recall the name of their original homeland.

If the Khazars did originally “dwell near the Seir Mountains,” then the Khazars, and thus world Jewry, are racially of Edomite stock. But how and when did Edomites get to Khazaria? There is evidence that in the 6th century BC some of the Edomites fled their homeland of Seir and migrated north:

The extent and ultimate destination of this northward trek is not found in history, but it is possible that it may have brought some Edomites to the region of Khazaria. The Edomites were also cast out of Palestine and dispersed in different directions in 70 A.D. when the Romans sacked Jerusalem. Many thousands of these people are known to have migrated northward to Asia Minor and around the Black Sea region (Ewald, Heinrich, History of Israel. Translated by J. E. Carpenter, vol. 5, p. 239, 1874).

When dealing with a people of a mixed racial heritage, it becomes a real quandary to ascertain their origin. The Jews of today are such a people. In fact the Jews themselves assert they are mongrels because of:

The anthropologist, Professor Carleton Coon, has also demonstrated the admixture of the different Jewish types with other races. He explains that while the “Jews” cannot be classed as “race” per se, they are an ethnic group:

When we talk of the racial mixtures that brought about the Jews of today, we must highlight the events surrounding the Babylonian captivity of Judah. The remainder of the Judah nation, which included some of the tribes of Benjamin, Levi, and Simeon, was taken captive by Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. But at the same time Edom was also put under Babylonian rule causing some of the Edomites to be brought to Babylon (Jeremiah 27:2-7).

When Persia overthrew Babylon, King Cyrus issued a decree (538 BC) allowing the Judahites to return to their land and rebuild the temple (Ezra 1:1-5). However, only about 50,000 returned to Palestine (Ezra 2:64-65). Some of them had apparently departed to their kinsmen in Europe.

However, many of the Judahites and Benjamites preferred to remain in Babylonia, becoming a part of the indigenous population. Those remaining had intermarried with the Babylonians and Edomites that were in the land and adopted their religion and law -- the Babylonian Talmud -- which became the foundation for Judaism. These then became the Babylonian Jews: ”Then many of the people of the land became Jews” (Esther 8:17).

Although they are called “Jews,” a term which is derived from the word “Judah,” these people are not true Judahites but became a mixed or hybridized people, consisting of Edomites, Hittites, Canaanites, Judahites, Babylonians, Ishmaelites, Huns, Khazars, etc.

When they migrated to other lands throughout the centuries, they retained their “Jew” or Judahite identity but brought with them the religion of Babylon.

Because of the Jews’ mixed ancestry, history is sketchy as to their origins from Japheth, Esau, or other people in the Bible. However, identification of these persons or tribes can also be ascertained by the characteristics, prophecies, etc., revealed about them in the Bible. Since Esau-Edom is one of the more predominate figures in the Bible, [in the next chapters] we will endeavor to ascertain his identification and place in historical and current events by these means.

(2) Weisman, Charles A., Who is Esau-Edom? Weisman Publications, Burnsville, MN 1996.

(4) Lazare, Bernard, Antisemitism: Its History and Causes. Britons Publishing Co., London 1967.

(5) Scott, J. Creagh, Hidden Government. 5th edition, The A. K. Chesterton Trust, London, UK, 2017.

(9) Grayzel, Solomon, A History of the Jews. Jewish Publication Society, Philadelphia PA, 1947.

(19) Gehman, Henry S., The New Westminster Dictionary of the Bible. The Westminster Press, Philadelphia, PA 1970.

(20) Ewald, Heinrich, History of Israel. Translated from the German by J. E. Carpenter. Vol. 5, 1874.

(21) Montegu, Ashley, Man's Most Dangerous Myth: The Fallacy of Race, Whitley Press 2008.

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